If Thren grabs me while I'm not dead yet, on that 1st round of combat, I'll help her help me as best I can. I can go to neg 13. I'm concious and maybe the ghouls are happy eating Jim. I'll use dancing lights to try and mess with the ghouls, as my darkness area leaves them. I did take a NWP to use innates while down. Thak smiles weakly at Thren, a warm little smile in a 5' darkness spell. Con check to get moving with Thren's help? Well I missed and thats sad. I missed by 1% I have a 15/99 and rolled a 16 :( heh. We are still in darkness so Thren's ac is probably really good.